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		<title>By: S.Smith</title>
		<link>http://realtaiji.com/two-ways-to-reach-out-for-real/#comment-227</link>
		<dc:creator>S.Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Day, I think you&#039;re right...that&#039;s a good reading. I appreciate that.

And it&#039;s a good point: legs are yang, arms yin on the vertical axis. As we explore Taiji in a deeper sense, simplistic divisions go away (or should).

You bet the elbows, shoulders, etc will be/feel yin or yang relative to themselves and to other joints.

It&#039;s all in flux.

There&#039;s no way to really pin it down. Like in the video... relative to itself, a yin wrist holds yang energy. Each joint and every idea does too.

(Still, this is so abstract... veering quite far from the intention of the article, I suppose.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Day, I think you&#8217;re right&#8230;that&#8217;s a good reading. I appreciate that.</p>
<p>And it&#8217;s a good point: legs are yang, arms yin on the vertical axis. As we explore Taiji in a deeper sense, simplistic divisions go away (or should).</p>
<p>You bet the elbows, shoulders, etc will be/feel yin or yang relative to themselves and to other joints.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s all in flux.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no way to really pin it down. Like in the video&#8230; relative to itself, a yin wrist holds yang energy. Each joint and every idea does too.</p>
<p>(Still, this is so abstract&#8230; veering quite far from the intention of the article, I suppose.)</p>
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		<title>By: day</title>
		<link>http://realtaiji.com/two-ways-to-reach-out-for-real/#comment-223</link>
		<dc:creator>day</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 08:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess what Josh said about vertical and horizontal division might mean that, with the waist as taiji, the lower body is yin while the uper body is yang, or the reverse of that. Most taiji system use this as the beginning of the form, and the closing, but WTBA old yang in the intermediate/advance already make division for left and right as yin-yang at the beginning. Or maybe at An/Push, either hand arrive at the same time or one by one.
Anyway Steven, how does this division works for other joints like elbow, shoulder, knee etc?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess what Josh said about vertical and horizontal division might mean that, with the waist as taiji, the lower body is yin while the uper body is yang, or the reverse of that. Most taiji system use this as the beginning of the form, and the closing, but WTBA old yang in the intermediate/advance already make division for left and right as yin-yang at the beginning. Or maybe at An/Push, either hand arrive at the same time or one by one.<br />
Anyway Steven, how does this division works for other joints like elbow, shoulder, knee etc?</p>
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		<title>By: S.Smith</title>
		<link>http://realtaiji.com/two-ways-to-reach-out-for-real/#comment-215</link>
		<dc:creator>S.Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 18:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also enjoy your vision of said terms. Agreeing (yin?) and disagreeing (yang?) both stimulate wondering...

It&#039;s not so much a transmission that I describe as much as an inner experience and, as I grow more and more attentive, I get more and more precise with terms.

So I &lt;em&gt;partly&lt;/em&gt; agree with your reading... for legs in particular and for general concepts, I think your terms work well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also enjoy your vision of said terms. Agreeing (yin?) and disagreeing (yang?) both stimulate wondering&#8230;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not so much a transmission that I describe as much as an inner experience and, as I grow more and more attentive, I get more and more precise with terms.</p>
<p>So I <em>partly</em> agree with your reading&#8230; for legs in particular and for general concepts, I think your terms work well.</p>
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		<title>By: josh young</title>
		<link>http://realtaiji.com/two-ways-to-reach-out-for-real/#comment-212</link>
		<dc:creator>josh young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 16:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been becoming increasingly aware of radical differences between the transmissions of principals of our two lineages. 

It seems that both of our systems contain large amounts of material that the other system lacks. 

Both also operate around different core motions and have different requirements for conditioning. I have come to learn that neither teaches what the other does, and yet one the superficial level many of the movements look the same. However when you go deeper, the real differences appear. I do not find one system better than the other, they are like apples and oranges and incomparable when it comes down to it. 

I am only learning this now, thanks to you and your students.
I fear for this reason we cannot really have a discussion, because when we use the same Chinese terms, we have rather different meanings behind them. I regret this for I have enjoyed the study of the WTBA material, but still cannot enter into a discussion with a member of the group without a conflict of terms and understandings. 

Anyway thanks for your hospitality and efforts in promoting the WTBA material. Keep up the level of productivity and practice and you will be true master one day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been becoming increasingly aware of radical differences between the transmissions of principals of our two lineages. </p>
<p>It seems that both of our systems contain large amounts of material that the other system lacks. </p>
<p>Both also operate around different core motions and have different requirements for conditioning. I have come to learn that neither teaches what the other does, and yet one the superficial level many of the movements look the same. However when you go deeper, the real differences appear. I do not find one system better than the other, they are like apples and oranges and incomparable when it comes down to it. </p>
<p>I am only learning this now, thanks to you and your students.<br />
I fear for this reason we cannot really have a discussion, because when we use the same Chinese terms, we have rather different meanings behind them. I regret this for I have enjoyed the study of the WTBA material, but still cannot enter into a discussion with a member of the group without a conflict of terms and understandings. </p>
<p>Anyway thanks for your hospitality and efforts in promoting the WTBA material. Keep up the level of productivity and practice and you will be true master one day.</p>
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		<title>By: S.Smith</title>
		<link>http://realtaiji.com/two-ways-to-reach-out-for-real/#comment-211</link>
		<dc:creator>S.Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 18:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roxie, I&#039;m glad your back at it. In terms of Yin and Yang, Divine Cosmos asks that we take on a yinny attitude... for balance... here&#039;s more yangy version of change (and a movie trailer): &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hulu.com/watch/126676/movie-trailers-the-shock-doctrine&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Shock Doctrine&lt;/a&gt;.

Josh, generally, in the form, one fills with breath while moving into Yin Wrist; empties the breath, exhaling, while extending into Yang wrists. So...

Typically I&#039;d guess that full refers to yang; void, yin. For the body and hands, those words lead us away from the experience. But for the legs: it&#039;s right on... it&#039;s a great way to look at legs: empty of weight or full of weight, vertically. Of course if the concepts work one way and not-so-much the other, that&#039;s really yin-yang, eh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roxie, I&#8217;m glad your back at it. In terms of Yin and Yang, Divine Cosmos asks that we take on a yinny attitude&#8230; for balance&#8230; here&#8217;s more yangy version of change (and a movie trailer): <a href="http://www.hulu.com/watch/126676/movie-trailers-the-shock-doctrine" rel="nofollow">Shock Doctrine</a>.</p>
<p>Josh, generally, in the form, one fills with breath while moving into Yin Wrist; empties the breath, exhaling, while extending into Yang wrists. So&#8230;</p>
<p>Typically I&#8217;d guess that full refers to yang; void, yin. For the body and hands, those words lead us away from the experience. But for the legs: it&#8217;s right on&#8230; it&#8217;s a great way to look at legs: empty of weight or full of weight, vertically. Of course if the concepts work one way and not-so-much the other, that&#8217;s really yin-yang, eh?</p>
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		<title>By: josh young</title>
		<link>http://realtaiji.com/two-ways-to-reach-out-for-real/#comment-208</link>
		<dc:creator>josh young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 15:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For my own use I prefer full and void, or substantial and insubstantial, when dealing with the physical energies. 

It correlates with the same wrist relationships found in this particular style just fine, but also dictates that there are times where yin and yang energies have divided up and down, and thus the arrival of two yang or yin wrists is as a single moving unit in these cases, balanced by the lower section of the body. When one enters into weapon work this becomes more pronounced, because two hands may hold a weapon together and thus arrive together as yang or yin in a vertical relationship. 

This division of yin and yang, as a vertical pole, is found in the first move of or form transmission. The WTBA first move uses both the vertical and the horizontal division in the same move.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For my own use I prefer full and void, or substantial and insubstantial, when dealing with the physical energies. </p>
<p>It correlates with the same wrist relationships found in this particular style just fine, but also dictates that there are times where yin and yang energies have divided up and down, and thus the arrival of two yang or yin wrists is as a single moving unit in these cases, balanced by the lower section of the body. When one enters into weapon work this becomes more pronounced, because two hands may hold a weapon together and thus arrive together as yang or yin in a vertical relationship. </p>
<p>This division of yin and yang, as a vertical pole, is found in the first move of or form transmission. The WTBA first move uses both the vertical and the horizontal division in the same move.</p>
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		<title>By: Roxie</title>
		<link>http://realtaiji.com/two-ways-to-reach-out-for-real/#comment-207</link>
		<dc:creator>Roxie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 08:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s kinda a LONG Read...but Worth every Second...

Ooooh, Yumzzzz...haha!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s kinda a LONG Read&#8230;but Worth every Second&#8230;</p>
<p>Ooooh, Yumzzzz&#8230;haha!</p>
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		<title>By: Roxie</title>
		<link>http://realtaiji.com/two-ways-to-reach-out-for-real/#comment-206</link>
		<dc:creator>Roxie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 08:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Btw, read this, when you have the time...

It&#039;s a HopefuLL Message...

http://divinecosmos.com/index.php/start-here/davids-blog/809-coming-changes-reading</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Btw, read this, when you have the time&#8230;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a HopefuLL Message&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://divinecosmos.com/index.php/start-here/davids-blog/809-coming-changes-reading" rel="nofollow">http://divinecosmos.com/index.php/start-here/davids-blog/809-coming-changes-reading</a></p>
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		<title>By: Roxie</title>
		<link>http://realtaiji.com/two-ways-to-reach-out-for-real/#comment-205</link>
		<dc:creator>Roxie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 07:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been busy &quot;lately&quot; with taking care of an Recovering Uncle, who was in the hospital for the past three months, and just &quot;Yesterday&quot; he came Home, to us...

So finally, I have found the time to read these articles again, and &quot;begin&quot; Practice w/Taiji...I find your Unstoppable Optimism Infectious and DeliShouSLEE DeLeCtable, ha...

Anywho, here&#039;s hoping that I may finally being One w/Taiji, ha...

Also, I&#039;ve been taking &quot;InternaL&quot; Kung Fu &amp; Chi Gung aka Taiji, at a LocaL Instructor here in Texas...

Yeahs, I&#039;m a Southerner now, hahaha...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been busy &#8220;lately&#8221; with taking care of an Recovering Uncle, who was in the hospital for the past three months, and just &#8220;Yesterday&#8221; he came Home, to us&#8230;</p>
<p>So finally, I have found the time to read these articles again, and &#8220;begin&#8221; Practice w/Taiji&#8230;I find your Unstoppable Optimism Infectious and DeliShouSLEE DeLeCtable, ha&#8230;</p>
<p>Anywho, here&#8217;s hoping that I may finally being One w/Taiji, ha&#8230;</p>
<p>Also, I&#8217;ve been taking &#8220;InternaL&#8221; Kung Fu &amp; Chi Gung aka Taiji, at a LocaL Instructor here in Texas&#8230;</p>
<p>Yeahs, I&#8217;m a Southerner now, hahaha&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: SRS</title>
		<link>http://realtaiji.com/two-ways-to-reach-out-for-real/#comment-195</link>
		<dc:creator>SRS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 22:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aaron, I dig the invitation to comment... I hope more folks do. And I hope to train with you again one day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aaron, I dig the invitation to comment&#8230; I hope more folks do. And I hope to train with you again one day.</p>
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